In this episode, Madeline chats with Bill Jacobs and Kat Hoenke, both ecologists and conservationists. During their conversation, they discuss the St. Kateri Conservation Center, the connections of the Seven Deadly Sins to environmental issues, ecology and relationships, how Bill and Kat got acquainted, the importance of planting native plants, rewilding, creation becoming the creator, saints who loved the outdoors, and so much more.

-link: Bill Patenaude’s episode, Between Earth and Sky

During the course of their conversation, they make many references which you can explore. Some of these references include The Lamb's Supper by Scott Hahn, the St. Kateri Conservation Center, Morning Star Seed Company, the iNaturalist app, the St. Kateri National Shrine, Laudato 'Si, the Message for World Day of Peace 1990, the Message for the World Day of Peace 2010, and episodes 41 and 77 of this podcast.

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Don't forget to go out there, and be a light to this world!