In this episode, Greg and Nathan unpack the phrase: “Trust God for the victory”—and why it might not mean what we think it does. Is it possible we’ve turned faith into a formula for getting what we want, rather than a surrender to God's will? Through raw conversation and biblical reflection, Greg and Nathan explore how Scripture often redefines “victory” as weakness, endurance, and even loss. Drawing from Hebrews 11, the cross, and their own spiritual journeys, Greg and Nathan wrestle with what it really means to trust God—not for the outcome, but in the midst of uncertainty. If you've ever felt let down by God or confused by unmet expectations in faith, this one’s for you.