Doc speaks with Godless, the former host of excellent heavy metal themed podcasts, Podcast Metal and MetalSucks, about his background in the music industry as a manager, booker, and promoter, how he met Chuck and got into podcasting, studying to become a high level interviewer, debate what being a nerd means, Godless interviews Doc a bit on God Forbid's career and downfall, the current state of the metal scene, and wrap up discussing politics.

This episode features the song "Half-Duplex" by Jade Telegraph from the EP Half-Duplex.

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