What if the “end times” aren’t just about the future, but about right now? In this episode, Bethany, Ben, and Jason unpack how Jesus flipped the script, bringing the future hope of God into the present moment.

We talk apocalyptic literature (without freaking out), Jesus as the “Son of Man,” and why this all matters for how we live and love today. Big theology meets real life in a down-to-earth, hope-filled convo.