Sibongile Mofokeng and Pastor Lucas Nkosi continue to discuss God's purpose for government, emphasizing that governments are ordained and established by God to maintain order and justice on earth. They reflect on biblical passages such as Romans 13:1-7, 1 Peter 2:13-16, 1 Timothy 1:8-10, 1 Timothy 2:1-4, Daniel 6:1-10, and Daniel 2:20-21 to show how God appoints and can remove governments when they fail to serve His purposes. The conversation highlights that governments act as God's servants to enforce laws and restrain evil, since not everyone is saved, making law and governance necessary to control sinners. They also discuss the proper Christian attitude toward government— submission and respect—while acknowledging that God's ultimate authority is above all human governments. Heart to Heart