On this episode, Jenn and Lizzie dig into how empathy can completely flip the script on the way we talk about and support people who rely on programs like SNAP. They break down the tired stigmas, call out the myths, and get real about how many of us are closer to needing help than we think. The conversation shifts the focus away from judging individuals and toward examining the systems that make accessing basic needs such a struggle. With a mix of heart, honesty, and a little righteous side-eye, they make the case for a community-forward approach, one where feeding each other, protecting dignity, and showing up with real support always come first.

And of course, we brought the receipts. So if you find yourself stuck in that inevitable holiday debate with your very loud, very misinformed uncle, feel free to slide one of these facts across the table and let the empathy (and the truth) do the heavy lifting.