In this insightful conversation, Deb sits down with Kasia Kabza to explore the importance of building a deep and authentic relationship with oneself. Kasia shares her personal journey—from a structured corporate career to embracing a more spiritual and shamanic path. Together, they discuss the power of intuition, how it differs from the mind’s logical thoughts, and why tuning into our inner voice is essential for self-discovery.

They dive into the process of shedding societal roles and identities, embracing personal freedom, and reconnecting with the inner child. Kasia and Deb highlight the significance of truly listening to oneself, finding fulfillment from within, and cultivating inner peace. They also touch on the rapid pace of personal growth in today’s world and the shifting energy around us, reminding listeners of the importance of trusting the journey and allowing it to unfold naturally.