John Darnielle and Joseph Fink discuss growth through destruction, the value of creative constraints, and Going Invisible 2 from the Mountain Goats’ upcoming album, In League With Dragons, out April 26 on Merge Records. Featuring an exclusive demo version of Going Invisible 2. Episodes will be released biweekly from this episode on. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com, and to order the album, go to mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons . From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

204: Going Invisible 2

Welcome to Night Vale creator Joseph Fink and the Mountain Goats singer/songwriter John Darnielle discuss what it means to be an artist, a fan, and, as many people are, both at once. Season Two explores the process of writing, recording, and releasing the Mountain Goats’ latest album, In League With Dragons, giving you an unprecedented look at the creative process as it is happening.

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We’ve reached the end of the season, and we saved the first song written for this album for last. Today, John and Joseph have one more conversation about what it means to be a fan, an artist, and both at once — and talk about “Hand of Death,” which never actually made it onto the Mountain Goats’ In League with Dragons. Featuring an exclusive demo of the song. The Mountain Goats’ In League With Dragons is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com. From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

219: Hand of Death

John and Joseph talk touring, books, and the title track from the Mountain Goats’ In League with Dragons. Featuring an exclusive demo of the song. The Mountain Goats’ In League With Dragons is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com. From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

218: In League with Dragons

Writer Maureen Johnson gets loopy with a very tired Joseph and John on today’s episode. The Mountain Goats’* In League With Dragons* is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com. From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

217: Maureen Johnson

On today’s episode, John and Joseph talk baseball, tragedy, and rhythm — and Doc Gooden from the Mountain Goats’ latest album, In League With Dragons. Featuring an exclusive demo of the song. In League With Dragons is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com. From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

216: Doc Gooden

This week, Mal Blum sticks around to talk Black Sabbath, touring, live albums, and Passaic 1975 from the Mountain Goats’ latest album, In League With Dragons . Featuring an exclusive demo of the song. In League With Dragons is out now on Merge Records. Get it at mergerecords.com/in-league-with-dragons. For more information, go to ionlylistentothemountaingoats.com. From Night Vale Presents. Produced by Christy Gressman.

204: Going Invisible 2

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