Joe was recently a guest on Going Places with Yulia Denisyuk, a show that sparks a better understanding of people and places near and far by fostering a space for real conversations to occur.

On the episode they chat about:

• How people learn the myth of America The Greatest
• Why Joe considers himself an immigrant, not an expat
• Why Joe moved to Germany
• How living in Berlin impacted Joe's views on American life
• What it's like running a marathon in the Omani desert
• Why Joe travels to run
• What's aging in reverse and how you can do it too
• What gives Joe hope

Check out Going Places at goingplacesmedia.com and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.