On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to ex-Australian deputy PM Barnaby Joyce about the persecution of Julian Assange. He strongly opposes his extradition to the US, saying this is a matter of Australian sovereignty, and that Julian Assange is no different to the other newspapers that published the same leaks. He also discusses the recent Australian bushfires. Next, we speak to Professor Mark Maslin, author of the book ‘The Cradle of Humanity.’ He discusses the evolution of modern humans, our ability to lie and manipulate, why the other Homo groups eventually became extinct, our behaviors in a society of humans, and much more!