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#342: The crew talks about some recent celebrity deaths and how we memorialize and pay tribute to meaningful people in our lives. We also discuss how we would like to be remembered.
Transcript
Josué Cardona 0:11
Welcome to GT radio on the Geek Therapy network. Here at Geek Therapy, we believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves is through the media we care about. My name is Josué Cardona. I’m joined today by Marc Cuiriz.
Marc Cuiriz 0:23
Hey,
Josué Cardona 0:24
Lara Taylor.
Lara Taylor 0:25
Hey.
Josué Cardona 0:26
And Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:28
‘ello,
Josué Cardona 0:28
Team. It’s my turn to pick today. And I was reflecting on the before I start, content warnings. We will be talking about people passing away. People dying of diseases, people dying of suicide. It’s a grief and loss episode, but maybe also a celebration of, of, of different lives. So not only how to grieve, but also how to celebrate people who pass and how, how we do that within the culture and different fandoms. So what sparked this for me, was the recent death of Jason David Frank who played the Green Ranger, the original, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. That show’s from the late 1900s Correct. Is that when it started? I believe so. Yeah. And he? I don’t know, I always it was cool that he was like such a beloved, I thought he was the coolest character. In the original show. I think he was.
Lara Taylor 1:33
Trini was my favorite. And then him but like, Yeah,
Josué Cardona 1:38
I think he was supposed to be the cool, the Cool kid. But then like, he was such a, I think, not only the fans love him, but I think he it always seemed like he loved the job a lot. I’ve seen a couple of the Power Rangers like a convention and stuff and they look they do not look happy. They were. But he just like, he just loved that he kept coming back to the show. He played, he played multiple Red Rangers. And he was like, every time there was a big event, he would always show up. He was even in the last movie that they made. He made a cameo at the end. And I don’t know, there was there was something about his death recently, that first of all, it was suicide. So that was, that’s sad, right? Because it’s like you see, again, I’ve always seen him as like, super excited and interacting with fans and super hyped about the just like being a Power Ranger. And being part of that band culture.
Lara Taylor 2:37
He had literally just posted his convention appearances
Josué Cardona 2:40
schedule
Lara Taylor 2:41
for the next few months.
Josué Cardona 2:42
Yeah,
Lara Taylor 2:42
before it happened. Yeah.
Josué Cardona 2:44
Yeah. Yeah. And, and so I’ve seen I remember when it happened, I immediately texted a friend of mine, who is a huge Power Rangers fan. And like he, like he rewatches the series, like every now and then all of them. He’s a pretty big fan. And, and, like, I wanted to let him know, like, from me, in case he wanted to talk because I figured it would hit him pretty hard. And yeah, I don’t have like, I don’t know too many people that are like that connected. I mean, of course, it happens, but like in my life, and they’re so connected to a character, or, and particularly to the character, I don’t think that he knew too much about like, you know, outside of the character, the actual actor’s life, but then to see his co stars, you know, putting out videos and then seeing all of the, like, tribute videos and photos and stuff. You know, it’s a reminder of how these relationships, how important they are, right? These parasocial relationships that we, that we have with with characters, they can inspire us, they can motivate us. And sometimes they just, I don’t know. Like, we know, they’re not our friends, but they they feel like some, like a part of our lives in some way. And they may be a part of, like, really good moments. And so when they pass, you feel it pretty hard. And of course, there’s something sad about it being a suicide that feels different than like Kevin Conroy has passed passing recently, which was from cancer, I believe right? is that right? Yeah, he died from cancer. And so you know, that was that was less sudden, because we knew he was sick, but then also like, just the celebration of like, so it always comes up right? Doesn’t matter who plays Batman? It’s like, no, Kevin Conroy is Batman. That’s the voice of Batman. That’s what a lot of people think about is Batman. And those, you know, like those losses, it’s like, Damn, it just, there’s something there’s something about them again, we don’t know them personally. But it’s pretty hard. And the other one I was thinking about recently, I have not seen Wakanda forever yet, but I assume,
Lara Taylor 5:07
i have
Josué Cardona 5:07
yeah, but I assume so don’t don’t spoil it for me. Or anyone listening. But there’s something I’m sure that the passing of Chadwick Boseman is felt in is an integral integral to the movie.
Lara Taylor 5:21
without, without spoiling anything.
Josué Cardona 5:24
Yes.
Lara Taylor 5:25
I cried at the beginning. I cried at the end. And this is not a spoiler, the the way they did for Stan Lee, the Marvel logo, it’s all Chad Chadwick Boseman. And it was that got me crying before the movie hit even started. Thank you marvel.
Josué Cardona 5:44
Yeah, I mean, I remember hearing hearing that he died. And it was, it was also like, very unbelievable. when it happened. And it’s funny because like, as a as a, I think, in all three of these cases, like to me there, I I don’t see them as actors as much like to me there the character, because I don’t really know chatter goes on from anything else. And I know he’s done other movies, but I don’t think I’ve seen any of them. And I don’t know. Jason David Frank is just like, Tommy to me. And Kevin Conroy is Batman. Like, I don’t know. I don’t know what else Kevin Conrad has done. I saw him in the one live action thing. I’ve seen him and he played Bruce Wayne. So like, they’re just they are those characters to me. Which is something? Yeah. Interesting. So. I mean, again, those are three characters that are that I felt. I keep saying characters. Those are three people who have who have passed. recently. I know we talked about when Chadwick Boseman died. But yeah, so I’d like to get your thoughts on those. And then also see, you know, what, any thoughts that you have on how, how people can cope with this, when you know, when they are feeling sad. And when they’re feeling? You know, they’re feeling like they’re feeling a loss, even if it’s someone that they haven’t met before?
Lara Taylor 7:15
I’m thinking I have thoughts
Josué Cardona 7:16
Yeah. Can I see your thinkin face
Lara Taylor 7:18
like there are? I think about that, and I actually, I’m in a lot of comic circles. And I’m seeing a lot of like artists and writers for comics who have passed away recently as well. I know it was earlier this year, but George Perez, there’s been a few other really famous I
Josué Cardona 7:37
know the George Perez had passed. Woah.
Lara Taylor 7:40
yeah. There’s another one that is not coming to the top of my mind. But there’s been a few even like friends in the comics industry who have passed. So I have a little more. And I know people who know some of the people who are have met some of the people who have passed both like this. I’m thinking especially if Kevin Conroy. But there’s so much these people touch more lives than any one of us usually touches in a lifetime. And so it can reverberate out. I...
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By Geek Therapy Network#342: The crew talks about some recent celebrity deaths and how we memorialize and pay tribute to meaningful people in our lives. We also discuss how we would like to be remembered.
Transcript
Josué Cardona 0:11
Welcome to GT radio on the Geek Therapy network. Here at Geek Therapy, we believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves is through the media we care about. My name is Josué Cardona. I’m joined today by Marc Cuiriz.
Marc Cuiriz 0:23
Hey,
Josué Cardona 0:24
Lara Taylor.
Lara Taylor 0:25
Hey.
Josué Cardona 0:26
And Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:28
‘ello,
Josué Cardona 0:28
Team. It’s my turn to pick today. And I was reflecting on the before I start, content warnings. We will be talking about people passing away. People dying of diseases, people dying of suicide. It’s a grief and loss episode, but maybe also a celebration of, of, of different lives. So not only how to grieve, but also how to celebrate people who pass and how, how we do that within the culture and different fandoms. So what sparked this for me, was the recent death of Jason David Frank who played the Green Ranger, the original, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. That show’s from the late 1900s Correct. Is that when it started? I believe so. Yeah. And he? I don’t know, I always it was cool that he was like such a beloved, I thought he was the coolest character. In the original show. I think he was.
Lara Taylor 1:33
Trini was my favorite. And then him but like, Yeah,
Josué Cardona 1:38
I think he was supposed to be the cool, the Cool kid. But then like, he was such a, I think, not only the fans love him, but I think he it always seemed like he loved the job a lot. I’ve seen a couple of the Power Rangers like a convention and stuff and they look they do not look happy. They were. But he just like, he just loved that he kept coming back to the show. He played, he played multiple Red Rangers. And he was like, every time there was a big event, he would always show up. He was even in the last movie that they made. He made a cameo at the end. And I don’t know, there was there was something about his death recently, that first of all, it was suicide. So that was, that’s sad, right? Because it’s like you see, again, I’ve always seen him as like, super excited and interacting with fans and super hyped about the just like being a Power Ranger. And being part of that band culture.
Lara Taylor 2:37
He had literally just posted his convention appearances
Josué Cardona 2:40
schedule
Lara Taylor 2:41
for the next few months.
Josué Cardona 2:42
Yeah,
Lara Taylor 2:42
before it happened. Yeah.
Josué Cardona 2:44
Yeah. Yeah. And, and so I’ve seen I remember when it happened, I immediately texted a friend of mine, who is a huge Power Rangers fan. And like he, like he rewatches the series, like every now and then all of them. He’s a pretty big fan. And, and, like, I wanted to let him know, like, from me, in case he wanted to talk because I figured it would hit him pretty hard. And yeah, I don’t have like, I don’t know too many people that are like that connected. I mean, of course, it happens, but like in my life, and they’re so connected to a character, or, and particularly to the character, I don’t think that he knew too much about like, you know, outside of the character, the actual actor’s life, but then to see his co stars, you know, putting out videos and then seeing all of the, like, tribute videos and photos and stuff. You know, it’s a reminder of how these relationships, how important they are, right? These parasocial relationships that we, that we have with with characters, they can inspire us, they can motivate us. And sometimes they just, I don’t know. Like, we know, they’re not our friends, but they they feel like some, like a part of our lives in some way. And they may be a part of, like, really good moments. And so when they pass, you feel it pretty hard. And of course, there’s something sad about it being a suicide that feels different than like Kevin Conroy has passed passing recently, which was from cancer, I believe right? is that right? Yeah, he died from cancer. And so you know, that was that was less sudden, because we knew he was sick, but then also like, just the celebration of like, so it always comes up right? Doesn’t matter who plays Batman? It’s like, no, Kevin Conroy is Batman. That’s the voice of Batman. That’s what a lot of people think about is Batman. And those, you know, like those losses, it’s like, Damn, it just, there’s something there’s something about them again, we don’t know them personally. But it’s pretty hard. And the other one I was thinking about recently, I have not seen Wakanda forever yet, but I assume,
Lara Taylor 5:07
i have
Josué Cardona 5:07
yeah, but I assume so don’t don’t spoil it for me. Or anyone listening. But there’s something I’m sure that the passing of Chadwick Boseman is felt in is an integral integral to the movie.
Lara Taylor 5:21
without, without spoiling anything.
Josué Cardona 5:24
Yes.
Lara Taylor 5:25
I cried at the beginning. I cried at the end. And this is not a spoiler, the the way they did for Stan Lee, the Marvel logo, it’s all Chad Chadwick Boseman. And it was that got me crying before the movie hit even started. Thank you marvel.
Josué Cardona 5:44
Yeah, I mean, I remember hearing hearing that he died. And it was, it was also like, very unbelievable. when it happened. And it’s funny because like, as a as a, I think, in all three of these cases, like to me there, I I don’t see them as actors as much like to me there the character, because I don’t really know chatter goes on from anything else. And I know he’s done other movies, but I don’t think I’ve seen any of them. And I don’t know. Jason David Frank is just like, Tommy to me. And Kevin Conroy is Batman. Like, I don’t know. I don’t know what else Kevin Conrad has done. I saw him in the one live action thing. I’ve seen him and he played Bruce Wayne. So like, they’re just they are those characters to me. Which is something? Yeah. Interesting. So. I mean, again, those are three characters that are that I felt. I keep saying characters. Those are three people who have who have passed. recently. I know we talked about when Chadwick Boseman died. But yeah, so I’d like to get your thoughts on those. And then also see, you know, what, any thoughts that you have on how, how people can cope with this, when you know, when they are feeling sad. And when they’re feeling? You know, they’re feeling like they’re feeling a loss, even if it’s someone that they haven’t met before?
Lara Taylor 7:15
I’m thinking I have thoughts
Josué Cardona 7:16
Yeah. Can I see your thinkin face
Lara Taylor 7:18
like there are? I think about that, and I actually, I’m in a lot of comic circles. And I’m seeing a lot of like artists and writers for comics who have passed away recently as well. I know it was earlier this year, but George Perez, there’s been a few other really famous I
Josué Cardona 7:37
know the George Perez had passed. Woah.
Lara Taylor 7:40
yeah. There’s another one that is not coming to the top of my mind. But there’s been a few even like friends in the comics industry who have passed. So I have a little more. And I know people who know some of the people who are have met some of the people who have passed both like this. I’m thinking especially if Kevin Conroy. But there’s so much these people touch more lives than any one of us usually touches in a lifetime. And so it can reverberate out. I...