In this episode, Rabbi Brent is joined by Ely Kreimendahl, queer comic, author, psychotherapist and host of Shame Spiral to discuss an ancient sage who is forced to confront his ego after 70 years of sleep, overbearing parents (having them and being them), letting go of love and old school Italian rainbow cookies.

Their conversation begins with the story of Honi the circle maker who awakes after 70 years of sleep. You can read the original text here.

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