Patience—it is something you ask for, but never enjoy practicing. In this episode, Callie takes us through a month of unexpected trials, including black mold in her apartment, personal conflicts, and the pressure of strained relationships. Through all of this, she learned the true meaning of patience—not only with others, but also with herself.

She reflects on how her closest friends and family, the people she trusts the most, are the ones who often see her at her worst—and how they, in their infinite patience, continue to show her love, grace, and understanding. Callie dives into the vulnerability that comes with being truly known by those we love, and how that love can be both a refuge and a challenge.

In a raw and heartfelt discussion, she explores the importance of practicing kindness with our "safe people," learning how to hold space for others' pain without reciprocating it with anger, and how we can all love others more like Jesus—unconditionally, without expectation.

This episode also touches on the difference between knowing Jesus and truly knowing Him. Callie compares her closest friendships to the kind of intimate relationship Jesus desires with us—one that goes beyond surface-level, where every detail of our lives is shared, and His presence is woven into the fabric of our daily existence.

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