In this episode of the Cloud Native Testing Podcast, Ole Lensmar sits down with Joe Karlsson, Developer Advocate at CloudQuery, to discuss how testing and governance intersect in today’s fast-moving cloud-native environments. They explore what it takes to catch issues like cloud drift, overly permissive configurations, and deprecated services—before they become costly outages.

Joe shares real-world insights from his work helping teams bake governance into CI/CD pipelines without slowing down delivery. From debugging GitHub Actions to building a culture of shared responsibility, this episode is packed with practical advice on making governance feel less like red tape—and more like a safety net for scaling teams.

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