Nicholas Chesterley, Author of "Future-Generation Government".

Nick Chesterley's new book, "Future-Generation Government", uses a behavioural insights lens to explore why governments underweight the long term, and how we can help them better balance the present and the future. Nick and I talk about the importance of measurement, experimenting with new ideas, and iterating as we learn what works (and what doesn't). We also discuss strategies to make it easy and attractive to govern for tomorrow today.