What role can our government play in making our lives better? And what role can we play in our government? Heather McGhee, Distinguished Senior Fellow and former President of Demos, is just the person to answer these questions. In this episode, George talks to Heather about building on our gut-level interconnectivity towards a more inclusive future, and about what learnings they have from being on the frontlines of the 2008 financial crisis and how they are applying those learnings today.

Heather McGhee is Distinguished Senior Fellow at Demos. She is author of the forthcoming book, The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together.  You can find her on Twitter: @hmcghee

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