Our guest for this podcast is Danielle Brian, Executive Director of the Project on Government Oversight (POGO). POGO is a nonpartisan independent government watchdog whose investigations have chronicled lessons learned, missed and lost across huge government programs addressing the cold war, two Gulf wars, 911, the war in Afghanistan, the 2008 financial crisis and the COVID 19 pandemic.

Danielle joins us today to discuss the kinds of pitfalls to expect with climate change spending associated with the pending infrastructure bills, and how we might avoid them. Examples of effective and ineffective oversight in the CARES Act, oil and gas royalties and other contexts are discussed.

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