Slovenija je članica Nata že več kot dve desetletji, vendar razprave o vlaganjih v obrambo in vlogi zavezništva nikoli niso potihnile. Ob dnevu civilne obrambe je bila gostja podkasta GOVSI predstojnica Katedre za obramboslovje na Fakulteti za družbene vede, dr. Jelena Juvan.

Poudarila je, da je Nato več kot samo vojska, saj članstvo koristi celotni državi: »V Natu je celotna država in od članstva v Natu nima koristi samo vojska, ampak imamo vsi,« je dejala. Po njenem mnenju je varnost temeljni pogoj za normalno delovanje družbe – podobno kot je zdravje za posameznika.

Posebej je izpostavila, da mora biti oboroževanje razumljeno širše: »Oboroževanje je samo eden izmed vidikov krepitve odpornosti. Samo vlaganje v oboroževanje brez krepitve tudi socialne države, kar je temelj Evropske unije oziroma vseh, ki tu živimo, je napačna pot.«

V pogovoru je opozorila tudi na sodobne varnostne grožnje, od kibernetskih napadov do dezinformacijskih kampanj, ter na pomen civilne obrambe in samozaščitnega ravnanja državljanov. Kot je dejala, Slovenija sicer živi v »varnostnem mehurčku«, a prav to je lahko nevarno: »Varnost jemljemo kot nekaj samoumevnega, dokler je ne izgubimo.«

Pogovor je vodila Petra Bezjak Cirman. 

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Rearmament without a welfare state is the wrong path, warns defense expert Dr. Jelena Juvan

Slovenia has been a NATO member for more than two decades, yet debates about defense spending and the role of the Alliance remain lively. On the occasion of Civil Defense Day, the guest of the GOVSI podcast was Dr. Jelena Juvan, Head of the Defense Studies Department at the Faculty of Social Sciences.

She emphasized that NATO is more than just the military, since membership benefits the entire country: “In NATO, the whole state is involved, and membership is not only beneficial for the armed forces, but for all of us,” she noted. According to her, security is the fundamental precondition for the normal functioning of society – just as health is for the individual.

Dr. Juvan stressed that rearmament should be understood more broadly: “Rearmament is only one aspect of strengthening resilience. Merely investing in weapons without strengthening the welfare state – which is the foundation of the European Union and all who live here – is the wrong path.”

In the conversation, she also warned about contemporary security threats, from cyberattacks to disinformation campaigns, and underlined the importance of civil defense and citizens’ self-protection. As she put it, Slovenia lives in a kind of “security bubble,” which may be dangerous in itself: “We take security for granted – until we lose it.”

The conversation was hosted by Petra Bezjak Cirman.