The Athletic's Nick Miller and Paul Taylor are alongside host Matt Davies-Adams to take the positives and good vibes from a luck point at Birmingham.

It's all aboard the hype-train as the lads discuss BrennanJohnson, currently tearing it up on loan at Lincoln - can he be convinced that Forest is the place for him to develop?

We also look ahead to Stoke, surely things cannot be as bad as last season's capitulation?

Plus of course there is another instalment of "Did They Really Play For Forest?"

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