This episode is the first of two parts of my conversation with Ethan Magness. He is a pastor in Pennsylvania, loves the story of Les Miserables, and used to design tattoos in college.

In the first part of our conversation, we discuss the nature of political and religious discourse in America, deconstruction, and the philosophical ideas that play into them with the common thread of “grace in an age of rage” upending all that we understand about our current environment.

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