Why South Africa’s Covid-19 special grant needs to become a permanent grant. Also, United States President Donald Trump has bolstered fascists in America. But if lessons from South Africa’s right wing are anything to go by, it may end in tears.

Hosted by: Tebadi Mmotla
Guests: Elizabeth Mokoena, Fana Twala, Yusuf Abba and Amanda Rinquest, plus Chris McGreal
Music: Wildfires by SAULT
Production: The Good People at Between Productions
Editor: Charles Leonard