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This episode could be titled, "I bet you think this podcasts' about you, don't you?"  This week, our hosts debate and disclose what happens in organizations that are trying to create change and realize equity - beginning with leadership (grasstops) or those without absolute, explicit leadership (grassroots).  
Where would you start if you were them?  What's the recipe for success for the organization you're in?
By the way, if you do think this episode is about you, listen again, and think more deeply!

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