Carmen Alfonso Rico is the founder of Cocoa, a pre-seed fund backing founders at the moment before a company really exists.

We talked about what she means by backing “killers with a heart”, why building a venture-scale company makes no rational sense, and how she looks for founders who feel it’s inevitable for them to build.

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