Candace Clement joins me to talk about connecting to and disconnecting from music and the people who make it.

You can hear Candace sing and play guitar on two new releases: "Post Nothing" by Psychic Energy and "Not a Doctor, Not Today" by As In.

She and I used to play in a band together, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Yj8JJwAM8&list=PLDA5AC953F3BD7DA2

Kim Gordon on guys in bands: https://twitter.com/Co_SwEuphoria/status/1114112213567135751

Girls (and Ladies) Rock Camp: https://girlsrockboston.org/

Zögernd is hosted by James F. Lowe. The theme music is based on Franz Schubert's "Standchen" (D.920, aka "Zögernd leise").