This is a great question that can be a great debate starter so let's start a debate. Trav & Jason have two very different viewpoints on whether being passionate about something actually matters when it comes to long-term business and life decisions. Does passion propel you forward or can it stop you in your tracks? Can being passionate about a topic lead to making different decisions in all aspects of life or does the idea of having or not having "passion" weigh you down. Does the difference lie in the definitions of passion & inspiration? 
This is where the debate begins so listen to see which side wins out or maybe they are both correct, you decide! Who's side do you land on or are you riding the fence? Let us know in the comments on the episode page!
 
In This Episode
01:55 Trav's Take
06:45 Jason's Take
09:15 Debate Begins
25:00 Are They Both Right?
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In our Campfire Chat series, I sit down with the people you'll get to meet at our adult summer camp and largest event of the year, Camp Indie.
In this episode, you'll hear from three of our past campers - Cassidy Scott, an accountant who has been able to build her lifestyle around what she wants (travel, stickers, fun!), Mellissa de Oliveira, who finally got laid off - and was happy about it, and Martie McNabb, whose camper, Brooklyn, was the star of the show at Camp Indie 2021.
If you're looking to break free of the 9-5 or are already a digital nomad, traveler, or entrepreneur then join us at the ultimate adult summer camp.Whether you’re just starting out or have been on this path for years, you’ll advance toward the lifestyle you want to lead (while having a blast at summer camp).  www.campindie.com

Campfire Chat 4: Cassidy Scott, Mellissa de Oliveira, Martie McNabb

In our Campfire Chat series, I sit down with the people you'll get to meet at our adult summer camp and largest event of the year, Camp Indie.
In this episode, you'll hear from three of our amazing speakers this year - Nora Dunn, the OG digital nomad, Christine Lozada, drone queen extraordinaire currently driving around in a skoolie, and Scott Brills, the "most interesting man in the world".
If you're looking to break free of the 9-5 or are already a digital nomad, traveler, or entrepreneur then join us at the ultimate adult summer camp.Whether you’re just starting out or have been on this path for years, you’ll advance toward the lifestyle you want to lead (while having a blast at summer camp).  www.campindie.com

Campfire Chat 3:  Nora Dunn, Christine Lozada, Scott Brills

In our Campfire Chat series, I sit down with the people you'll get to meet at our adult summer camp and largest event of the year, Camp Indie.
In this episode, you'll hear from two past camp attendees who loved it so much in 2021 that they are coming back, Jason Robinson and John McKenzie, on how they were both able to quit their jobs and start traveling the world.
If you're looking to break free of the 9-5 or are already a digital nomad, traveler, or entrepreneur then join us at the ultimate adult summer camp.Whether you’re just starting out or have been on this path for years, you’ll advance toward the lifestyle you want to lead (while having a blast at summer camp).  www.campindie.com

Campfire Chat 2:  Jason Robinson and John McKenzie

In our Campfire Chat series, I sit down with the people you'll get to meet at our adult summer camp and largest event of the year, Camp Indie.
In this episode, hear from two of our main speakers, Erica Hackman and John Burnett, on how they've been able to build lifestyles that give them location, time, and financial freedom - and also how a trip to Qatar lead to a mud hut in Zambia and why storms on a remote island are a good thing!If you're looking to break free of the 9-5 or are already a digital nomad, traveler, or entrepreneur then join us at the ultimate adult summer camp.Whether you’re just starting out or have been on this path for years, you’ll advance toward the lifestyle you want to lead (while having a blast at summer camp).  www.campindie.com

Campfire Chat 1: Erica Hackman and John Burnett

Today we are talking with Jeremy Enns, founder of Podcast Marketing Academy and Counterweight Creative. I have had the honor of knowing ( & becoming great friends with) Jeremy since he first joined LI in 2016 and have watched his businesses grow like crazy. Jeremy (& his partner Kelly) are true digital nomads in that they have been living all over the world for years while working on their ever-expanding businesses.
In this episode, we discuss digital nomad visas (& how things line up as they are supposed to), what the journey looks like from scrapping by to fully location independent, and why it is smart to build your business with a lifestyle-first mindset to avoid a lot of stressors that happen when you are growing your business. 
We also get into why travel doesn't have to be the thing you build everything around, how having an exit strategy for your business is a positive thing especially when you are first starting it up, and how you know when you need to pivot or pull the plug.
What was your biggest takeaway from today's episode?  Let us know over on Instagram!
TLDR
Jeremy's location independent journey from scrapping-by to flourishing
Why a lifestyle-first mindset is important
Travel doesn't have to be the thing you build everything around
Why exit strategies are important even when first starting out
How do you know when to pivot vs pull the plug
Process first, outcome second
Sitting in discomfort can help you find your life purpose
Guest Bio

Jeremy Enns is the founder of Podcast Marketing Academy, the only growth-focused podcast education platform for experienced creators, brands, and marketers looking to build long-term, sustainable audience growth systems. He loves any sport that involves a frisbee, used to co-host an explicit-rated ice cream podcast, once bicycled across Europe, and will always look back on the day he finally saved up enough money to buy the Millennium Falcon Lego set as one of his proudest achievements.

Important Links
Jeremy's page he created for all of you
Seth Godin's Blog Post - Thirty Five + Years of Projects
The Dip by Seth Godin
Mark Manson's Blog Post - 7 Strange Questions That Help You Find Your Life Purpose
Seasons of Life - LI Podcast Episode
Location Indie - Join The Newsletter (scroll to the bottom of the page)

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