Meg Ulman is co-author with her partner poet Patrick Jones of The Art of Free Travel, about their adventures with kids and a terrier riding bikes up and down the east coast for 14 months. All together they make up the entity known as The Artist As Family. We spoke with them about that trip in a previous episode, but this time we find out about their continuing adventures while living a more settled lifestyle, including homeschooling son Zephyr, and the Hepburn Relocalisation Network. In the latter part of the show we talk about how someone working a 9-5 job might take on some of the simpler life!