We talk shop, without the supermarket, with Robert Pekin, a former 4th generation dairy farmer, who like tens of thousands of his small- and medium-scale colleagues, lost the family farm in the 1990s, as a casualty of the de-regulation of the Australian dairy industry. And just like it is for so many dairy farmers in the current dairy crisis, this was a personally very traumatic time for Robert. His path to redemption and healing led him to the discovery and practice of community-supported agriculture (CSA), and he established, and now runs along with his partner Emma-Kate Rose, the social enterprise Food Connect in Brisbane, which since 2005 has been on a mission to create a fairer food system for both farmers and eaters.