This week, Marissa’s guest is the prolific and brilliant Jennifer Senior, a staff writer for The Atlantic, who has also been a writer for the New York Times, New York Magazine and is author of the book All Joy and No Fun: The Paradox of Modern Parenting. Marissa and Jen discuss Jen’s latest for The Atlantic --a profile of a friend who died on 9/11, and what she learned about grief and hope. Also: there is talk of the effects of the pandemic on parenting and of course, there’s cake. Marissa bakes up Marion Burros’ famous plum torte, albeit with some twists.  

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