When someone we love dies, Grief Coach Nikki Elliot says we don't lose them, they are still very much a part of our lives. Nikki shares the story of what she calls her shattering when her son Lief passed suddenly in 2016. After suffering with grief for months, she finally started to heal. She says that Leif guided her through her healing journey and that her relationship with him is now one of fullness that is no longer restricted by the physical plane. She continues to pass this healing to parents across the world as she lights a way to hope out of the darkest hell on earth. To learn more about Nikki or to listen to her client Cathie Westdyk's story please visit https://www.talkingjoy.org Conversations with Pam Rotelle Robertson