For this episode, we read two books about grief: Grief is Love by Marisa Renee Lee and Grief is for People by Sloan Crosley. These books approach the topic from wildly different angles, but each offers a clear window into the experience of grief. In our conversation, we talk about what grief is "supposed" to look like versus what it actually looks like, the vulnerability inherent in grieving, and about who is permitted to grieve. We also talk about why finding a new therapist sucks, and ponder if our podcast is "poo."