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Daniel, Daina, and Emily discuss grieving the living, including past versions of oneself and relationships that have changed. They explore how expectations can lead to grief when reality doesn't match hopes or ideals. The conversation touches on the challenges of letting go, accepting people as they are, and moving forward in personal growth even if it means leaving others behind. They debate the impact of participation trophies on motivation and the balance between showing up authentically and enabling mediocrity. The hosts emphasize the importance of allowing oneself to grow and detach, when necessary, while acknowledging the grief that can come with change and separation.

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