NOTE: It's come to our attention that our uploading service initially uploaded only a partial file. Subsequently, 9 minutes of the end of this podcast was cut off of the first upload. Because of the way apps cache data, if you started the podcast on an app like Apple Podcasts, you'll need to visit a web-based podcast player to hear end of the show. Head to the 'Episodes' page of our website to find the web players, or click the alternate episode link below.