Western North Carolina's Jacob Ward joins the show for Episode 2 of the podcast to chat about his recent efforts to repeat some of the state's king lines. The boys dive deep to cover some of Jacob's favorite routes at Looking Glass and the Red River Gorge, how his crew has helped revitalize the trad climbing community in the Southeast, a unique father son belaytionship and a little extra beta for Ari's favorite project, the Glass Menagerie.