Dr. Paul Zeitz, a physician, activist, and author, joins Kari to talk about his new book, Revolutionary Optimism. They explore ideas of overwhelm and grief and share tips for how to stay focused on love in challenging times, and use that love to fuel our activism.

Dr. Paul Zeitz website: https://drpaulzeitz.org/

Sign up sheet for the next Grief and Rage Workshop that begins June 24: Sign up here

Kari's website: www.kariodriscollwriter.com

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