Growth is such an interesting concept to me (and my guest, CK). In many ways it seems like growth is not something we choose to value but is inherent in who we are as humans. When we were given the "gift" of consciousness it set us down a never ending path of trying to find new and better ways to grow. We want to develop new technology, new tools, more revenue, more resources, personal growth, professional growth, and on and on. This has obviously brought us a lot of amazing innovations throughout human history, but is there a shadow side? Is there a "curse" to our consciousness and the never ending search for growth? This was much of what we discussed during this episode. 

As way of background, CK is a tech entrepreneur who started a company called Taggun which uses AI to automatically process receipts and invoices for customers. CK is fascinated by AI and thinks there is so much value to making it accessible for everyone. This is right in line with his core value of "growth." We should be using this amazing technology to grow even more as a society. But at what cost, at what risk? CK was incredibly thoughtful about all of these questions and the implications of growth, making it for a really rich conversation.

One of my favorite parts of the conversation was when he spoke about his optimism for humanity, despite the potential risks of an unquenchable thirst for growth. We were discussing the similarities between AI and the human mind and CK's take is that there is still so much unknown magic in how the human mind works that cannot be built into any AI system. It is that same magic that he believes is going to save us. There is something in our consciousness that allows us, no matter how bad we screw up as humans--and we screw up a lot, to find a way to recalibrate and course correct. There is something deep rooted in us that brings us back to "good." I sure hope he right.