In this conversation, Richard Case interviews Casey Mulligan, a professor at the University of Chicago, discussing various economic insights and trends. They explore the evolving role of public sector unions, the impact of competition on public services, and the effects of COVID-19 on urban dynamics. Mulligan emphasizes the importance of human capital and the challenges posed by remote work, while also reflecting on historical patterns of urban decline and the potential for cities to recover. The discussion highlights the interconnectedness of economic policies, public services, and societal outcomes as they approach the upcoming election.

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