In Episode 36 we have an incredibly honest and challenging chat with our good friend, Doug Rumbold.

He shares how he walked through the grief of losing his brother and best friend as a young adult, and also what it looks like to see your child

go through cancer. He also made us laugh when he thought we coined the term "littles" in reference to kids. Doug is a husband, father, pastor and all around great guy. We know you will be uplifted by his story.