In this episode, Joanne delves deep into her personal journey with grief, creativity, and self-discovery. She shares insights from her podcasting experience, noting how past episodes unknowingly prepared her for future challenges. Joanne also discusses the impact of covert abuse, family dynamics, and the importance of setting boundaries. The episode highlights a significant conversation with Jersey, shedding light on covert abuse's long-term effects. Joanne concludes by reflecting on her relationship with her sons and the importance of turning over pain to one's soul, emphasizing the transformative power of sharing personal stories.