Perhaps part of what plagues us when we think about most issues today, is that we tend to see them in very myopic ways.  The world is a more and more complex place, and yet we do the opposite of what we should do.  We too often silo information or categories, or problems.  

We don’t always see the connections and therefore we get frustrated, because we can’t seem to solve the problems.  

Environmental issues are no different.  My guest, one of the fathers of the environmental movement,  James "Gus" Speth, believes that when we talk about environmentalism, it’s more than the air, or the water, or the earth.  That there is a holistic approach we need to take that is  essential if we want to solve anything.

He writes about this in the context of his own history in his memoir Angels by the River.

My conversation with Gus Speth: