It's natural for most of us to have a travel bucket list. Some travelers, however, are hard-wired to do everything in their power to check off those countries and those experiences.

In today's episode we will once again speak with our friend Samer Kawar, this time about the country of Guyana. We'll hear about prioritizing natural encounters, even if they come with unexpected discomfort. We invite you to listen in on today's conversation to get some ideas of how and why you might want to do something similar on your next trip...wherever you're headed.