Unfinished Minds

Gym Class, Dodgeball, and the Lessons We Didn’t See Coming


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It was never just gym class…
In this episode, Amy and Ben revisit their time in “geek gym,” a Grade 9 PE class created for students who weren’t exactly athletic superstars.
With humour and humility, they explore the surprising lessons gym class taught them about fairness, teamwork, autonomy, perseverance, and play.

From dodgeballs and failed rope climbs to leadership and parenting, this conversation unpacks how physical education shaped them more than they expected—and why movement, challenge, and community still matter.
Whether you loved PE or loathed it, this one’s for anyone who’s ever surprised themselves.
We are all unfinished minds. Let’s keep learning.

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Unfinished MindsBy Ben Zimmer and Amy Leask