In this episode, Johanna interviews Professor Ciaran Martin, former CEO of the UK’s Cyber Security Centre, and Professor of Practice in the Management of Public Organisations at Oxford University.

The pair discuss cyber operations in Ukraine, the role of the private sector in cyber defence, the ethical and legal questions raised in Johanna’s interview with Cyber Partisans spokesperson Yuliana Shemetovets in Episode 9, and much more.

Tech Mirror is recorded on Ngunnawal land. We acknowledge the traditional custodians of this land and pay our respect to elders past, present, and emerging.

Professor Johanna Weaver is Director of the Tech Policy Design Centre at the Australian National University. This episode was produced by ANU Media. Special thanks to Ben Gowdie for research and post-production support.

Relevant links:

The Hacker and the State, by Ben Buchanan: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/51589806-the-hacker-and-the-state

Confidant Cyber Security, by Jessica Barker: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55286316-confident-cyber-security

Ciaran Martin on Twitter: @ciaranmartinoxf

Blavatnik School of Government on Twitter: @BlavatnikSchool

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