In this episode, we somehow discover that we’ve been going to the same hairdresser this whole time and had no idea, which leads us down a spiral of hair talk — including our shared hatred of loose strands once they’re no longer attached to our heads.

We also establish that Victoria is elite for doing full-day kindergarten (even though so did Ava), and that both of us have been nerds since birth as advanced readers. This naturally turns into a conversation about parents and volunteering (PTA parents vs. AR reading volunteers), and a deep dive into the chaos that was JC Penney, aka the breeding ground for the mysterious rude monkey Victoria desperately wanted but still can’t name.

Along the way, we cover Victoria’s lifelong talent of knowing the zodiac sign of literally everyone, Ava convincing Layton he needs a new hairdresser, and Victoria humbling a man in Pilates (as she should).

It’s random, full circle, and somehow always comes back to hair.