This is a continuation of the conversation with a couple dealing with his long-time same sex attraction and God pursuing him even as he was a pastor. They discuss healing in their marriage and how a ministry was begun. "God loved us when we were enemies and sinners and ungodly and helpless." The key to extending both grace and truth is relationship with others. The Selbys encourage us to do this in our spiritual walk. From bondage to freedom. From darkness to light. Lives changed.