There are fewer people in the world I enjoy talking to more than Patrick Carlin. There is a backstory in this episode from the original Couch podcast, which led to a conversation about music streaming and piracy. But really, it's all about Patrick. For those who are really big fans, please do a "fuck" count. We say it a lot. Did I mention that Couch Revisited is now a part of the Active Voice Productions world? Well I am mentioning it now!

https://www.activevoiceproductions.com/couch

Also, get your copy of Patrick's book here:

http://tinyurl.com/y5c9cg7k