Cut out all the lights...then turn em back, because we need to have a discussion about what might very well be Kanye West's most somber song ever: Hands On. As Chris and Travis near the end of Jesus is King, the song becomes a crucial component of Kanye's long, arduous road back to God. In this episode they discuss Fred Hammond's crucial input into the song, Ephesians and 1 Corinthians (again), and the hypocrisy of the Christian community's response to Kanye West.

And at no point do Chris and Travis talk about the Joker movie. Because why would they?