Today we're bringing you a really special episode featuring an amazing interview Ben and I had with Hanif, a Hazara man who escaped persecution in Pakistan and embarked on a treacherous, months long journey to Australia. 

Hanif has been living in Hobart on temporary visas for seven years. He is currently doing his honours in medical research at the University of Tasmania. But he remembers the journey to Australia like it was yesterday, and he tells us the whole story. 

We also chat to Hanif about what it's like to live on a temporary visa, and what his dream future would be if he ever got permanent residency here.