The Confab Podcast

Hanky Panky with Gale Epstein and Lida Orzeck


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In 1977, Gale Epstein gave her friend Lida Orzeck a bra and panty set, handcrafted out of embroidered handkerchiefs. From there, a business idea was born. Today, Hanky Panky is a 50-million-dollar business, selling an average of one thong per second.

In this episode, Gale and Lida discuss how to start, run, and enjoy a business without outside investment. Hanky Panky has refused all offers of a buyout. Instead, the company is employee-owned, proof that it is possible to stay small while being big.
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The Confab PodcastBy The Women’s Wisdom Project