Daniel describes his friend Pablo as an old Chilean man who learned to sail by chasing storms.

Interview with Daniel Santrella

Music Used in This Episode:

- Parvus Decree - The Black Sun Spire - https://goo.gl/dOyluI

- All other music - Podington Bear Sound of Picture Production Library - goo.gl/AEoC6n

Produced and Edited by Jim O'Connell & Andi Sharavsky

Mixing and Mastering by Jim O'Connell