In this episode, I talk with Dr. Mary Helen Immordino-Yang. She is the Fahmy and Donna Attallah Professor of Humanistic Psychology at the University of Southern California, where she is a professor of education, psychology, and neuroscience and the founding director of the Center for Affective Neuroscience, Development, Learning and Education, or CANDLE. A former public school science teacher, she studies how emotion, social experience, and the stories we build about what happens to us shape learning and development. Her book, Emotions, Learning, and the Brain, helped bring affective neuroscience into conversation with education, and her recent longitudinal research follows adolescents as they engage in what her team calls “transcendent thinking”: moving beyond immediate facts to consider values, identity, systems, ethics, and possible futures. “Big picture” thinking helps us far more than we may realize.